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Multiple cable modems
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Wil
2005-03-24 17:18:17 UTC
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We have several computers at our house sharing rr through a router.
Is it possible to get a second modem and set up two networks, each
with it's own connection to the Internet? Can I just buy a cable
modem or do I have to use one from rr? Do they charge extra?

Thanks for the help.
Darren New
2005-03-24 17:43:35 UTC
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Post by Wil
We have several computers at our house sharing rr through a router.
Is it possible to get a second modem and set up two networks, each
with it's own connection to the Internet? Can I just buy a cable
modem or do I have to use one from rr? Do they charge extra?
Why? For faster speed? Pay RR more and they'll give you faster speed.
For ease of access? Pay RR a little more and they'll give you two IP
addresses on the same modem.
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
You have to wonder what Mr. Smucker
thought of that tag line, don't you?
Wil
2005-03-24 18:34:39 UTC
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I share the connection with several roommates and work from home. If
they're using the connection I can tell the difference in performance.
It can be pain staking at times. If I pay for the higher bandwidth
rate I'm not guaranteed to get it. I'll still be sharing it with them.
If I have a dedicated modem, I get the full bandwidth and them
downloading mp3s won't interfere with my work. I just wasn't sure how
rr would charge for a second modem and if it would be cheaper if I
bought one.
Post by Darren New
Post by Wil
We have several computers at our house sharing rr through a router.
Is it possible to get a second modem and set up two networks, each
with it's own connection to the Internet? Can I just buy a cable
modem or do I have to use one from rr? Do they charge extra?
Why? For faster speed? Pay RR more and they'll give you faster speed.
For ease of access? Pay RR a little more and they'll give you two IP
addresses on the same modem.
Darren New
2005-03-24 19:48:29 UTC
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Post by Wil
I share the connection with several roommates and work from home. If
they're using the connection I can tell the difference in performance.
Check to see if your router has a "QoS" (Quality of Service) setting
that you can use to give your own machine priority over theirs. It might
be the best way to go.
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
You have to wonder what Mr. Smucker
thought of that tag line, don't you?
Never anonymous Bud
2005-03-24 20:35:57 UTC
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Post by Wil
I share the connection with several roommates and work from home. If
they're using the connection I can tell the difference in performance.
It can be pain staking at times. If I pay for the higher bandwidth
rate I'm not guaranteed to get it. I'll still be sharing it with them.
If I have a dedicated modem, I get the full bandwidth and them
downloading mp3s won't interfere with my work. I just wasn't sure how
rr would charge for a second modem and if it would be cheaper if I
bought one.
You get no discount for owning your own modem.
--
The truth is out there,

but it's not interesting enough for most people.
Scott Lindner
2005-04-09 20:16:30 UTC
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Post by Wil
I share the connection with several roommates and work from home. If
they're using the connection I can tell the difference in performance.
It can be pain staking at times. If I pay for the higher bandwidth
[snip]
You can set up a router to do load balancing and give certain types of
traffic or IPs priority or more percentage than others. I'm about to do
this soon. I have a similar situation, although not due to roommates, just
different things that I do cause me grief in certain situations internal to
my network.

If you want more info on this I can help.

Scott
Larry C.
2005-04-09 20:46:04 UTC
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Post by Scott Lindner
Post by Wil
I share the connection with several roommates and work from home. If
they're using the connection I can tell the difference in performance.
It can be pain staking at times. If I pay for the higher bandwidth
[snip]
You can set up a router to do load balancing and give certain types of
traffic or IPs priority or more percentage than others. I'm about to do
this soon. I have a similar situation, although not due to roommates, just
different things that I do cause me grief in certain situations internal to
my network.
If you want more info on this I can help.
Scott
Scott, can that be done with almost any router or only with a full featured
router?
Scott Lindner
2005-04-09 21:14:49 UTC
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Post by Larry C.
Scott, can that be done with almost any router or only with a full featured
router?
I only have experience with two consumer hardware routers and both do not
support this sort of thing. So as far as I know only professional hardware
routers will do it. I can't say for sure though. What I can say for sure
is that there are routers that do support load balancing and dynamic
routing. I doubt they are priced for consumers but I can't say for sure.

If you don't mind running an old and useless computer as your router you can
do it with an old 486 or greater using a single bootable floppy that runs
Linux underneath it all. Don't even need a hard drive. That's my plan.
Most people that would care about load balancing gotta have an old and
worthless computer to be useful for this. Without a hard disk it won't make
much noise, will not produce much heat, and won't draw much power. What's
great is that once you get it set how you want, commit those changes to the
floppy, pull it out, write protect it, and put it back in. Even if someone
were to hack it all you gotta do is reboot.

There are similar things on a boot CD as well that are supposed to be even
better than the floppy versions. It's my understanding that with some of
these you don't need any Linux knowledge at all to know how to use it.
Others you do need a bit of Linux knowledge. I haven't done this yet so I
can't say for sure or make personal recommendations. I know two people that
are using a bootable CD router for load balancing on an old machine and love
the performance it gives them. They had a similiar problem as the OP for
this thread. After using a cheap machine and this software router their
performance got better for more than one reason. It turns out our cheap
cable modem routers are so cheaply designed that even for basic NAT routing
a SW router on a PC provides better performance. This one I can say that I
have measured and observed myself. I used to run a Linux router for sharing
the cable modem but stopped when I got wireless. It was easier to replace
my old Linux router with the hardware one since I needed it for the wireless
anyway. Since I've noticed a serious performance drop (and measured
scientifically) with the hardware router I'm going to revert back to my SW
router on a Linux machine and add in load balancing for increased
performance for the things I care about.

OK... that was much too long of a post to answer your question. :) Feel
free to ask more questions. I'll try my best to answer them.

Scott
Darren New
2005-04-10 18:07:05 UTC
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Post by Scott Lindner
I only have experience with two consumer hardware routers and both do not
support this sort of thing.
The latest linksys hardware supports it. I think the D-Link did too, but
I don't remember, as I had to take it back.
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
You have to wonder what Mr. Smucker
thought of that tag line, don't you?
Scott Lindner
2005-04-10 19:28:01 UTC
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Application & Gaming> The latest linksys hardware supports it. I think the
D-Link did too, but
Post by Darren New
I don't remember, as I had to take it back.
Sweet! That really makes things easy. Especially for the OP who's looking
for an easy solution.

Scott

Never anonymous Bud
2005-03-24 17:57:45 UTC
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Post by Wil
We have several computers at our house sharing rr through a router.
Is it possible to get a second modem and set up two networks, each
with it's own connection to the Internet?
Sure, but you'll pay full price for EACH modem.

Why would you WANT to do that?
--
The truth is out there,

but it's not interesting enough for most people.
Scott Lindner
2005-04-09 20:18:19 UTC
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Post by Never anonymous Bud
Sure, but you'll pay full price for EACH modem.
Why would you WANT to do that?
I think it's important to address the intent of the post, and not the
specifics in the post. Especially when it is apparent that the OP is
ignorant of the facts you are pointing out in harsh response.
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